Manual gearbox issues

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number6
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by number6 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:42 pm

DomesticExtremist wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:53 pm
number6 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:21 pm
MotorMan wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:12 pm
Seems to be increasingly the case that patchy manufacturing quality control assumes that the end-user will identify and rectify the problems that should have been identified and sorted at the factory. A false economy really. It's ok that any faults are covered by warranty but not good for Seat's image or purchaser's blood pressure. Hope it's all sorted now though.
Motor Man, you say it's a false economy. Can you back that up.
I worked in an industry that purchased many timber doors and windows. We noticed a sudden increase in complaints and rectification work needed. The manufacturer had cut 'Quality Control' staff by over 90%. This left them with complaints on about 15% of items. These they fixed under warranty. The cost of these repairs/replacement was a fraction of the savings in quality control staff costs. So, for them, it was a huge money saver. Could the same apply here?
It may have been cheaper to fix shoddy doors out in the field, but you also have to figure out how much business they lost by customers preferring a supplier whose products work as specified first time. Only the most relaxed of builders would put up indefinitely with having to go back to their own clients to rectify faults, warranty or no.
They remained as market leaders and made more profit! They were/are "JELD-WEN are the UK's largest manufacturer of quality timber interior and exterior doors, windows and stairs". https://www.jeld-wen.co.uk/


DomesticExtremist
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by DomesticExtremist » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 pm

Then again Microsoft is 'market leader' in PC OS - that doesn't mean their product is the best...
(How they got to that position is another story, not one of competitive product superiority, mind you).
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number6
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by number6 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:13 pm

DomesticExtremist wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:50 pm
Then again Microsoft is 'market leader' in PC OS - that doesn't mean their product is the best...
(How they got to that position is another story, not one of competitive product superiority, mind you).
I was simply replying to your comment about it being a 'false economy'. It may not be the case and yes, like Microsoft the products were not superior. Unfortunately, in today's business world companies can supply poor products, dominate the market and make millions.
I suspect that it would cost Seat more to ensure product reliability and superiority than it does, currently, to fix these manufacturing faults but until Seat are unable to sell their cars, in a competitive market, they will almost certainly continue in the same vein.
Not how I (or probably, you) think industries should work but short of refusing to buy the marque, there is little that we can do.


DomesticExtremist
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by DomesticExtremist » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:31 am

Fair enough, I think we agree.
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Steve.J
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by Steve.J » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:55 pm

Same issue as Stapehillarona 115bhp engine 6 speed gearbox notchy going from 1st to second gear, if you hesitate before engaging second it goes in smoothly but in normal driving gear change i get that notchy snatch feel, I have taken the car in twice to my Seat dealer and on both occasions the mechanic has come back No fault found so i was clad to here that someone else has had a similar issue.


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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by Wowzz » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:03 am

Steve.J wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:55 pm
Same issue as Stapehillarona 115bhp engine 6 speed gearbox notchy going from 1st to second gear, if you hesitate before engaging second it goes in smoothly but in normal driving gear change i get that notchy snatch feel, I have taken the car in twice to my Seat dealer and on both occasions the mechanic has come back No fault found so i was clad to here that someone else has had a similar issue.
I'm probably showing my age now, but when I was learning to drive, my instructor taught me to always pause in neutral when changing gear. (Probably due to the fact that syncromesh was not on all gears!). I still do the pause to this day!


Stapehillarona
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by Stapehillarona » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:39 am

Steve.J - if you are still getting same issue on gear change, it could be the gear selector needs adjusting. Worth asking your mechanic whether he checked that against Seat's specifications. As I said, my dealer said he had to adjust mine and it has been spot on since then.


Steve.J
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by Steve.J » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:43 pm

Stapehillarona - Thanks for the tip i will try again with the dealer as i did not have much confidence with the technician the last time i think they were an trainee apprentice.


mustangboy1944
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Re: Manual gearbox issues

Post by mustangboy1944 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:09 pm

I'm also having issues with my gearbox, when i go into 6th it decided to tell me that im in third and go straight to the red line, untill i press the clutch in and wait till the revs go to idle then it says im in sixth and works. I can also put the car into sixth with no clutch but it wont stall. It just grinds majourly. Oh and it decided to pop out of sixth gear randomly after being in it perfectly fine. Apart from that the car is brill.


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